tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post7382207633142415644..comments2024-03-26T21:29:07.190-07:00Comments on Rejoice, and be exceeding glad...: On Honesty in Family HistoryJames Tannerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post-15860717478882805502015-11-21T08:32:17.732-08:002015-11-21T08:32:17.732-08:00To go to court, you have to be able to prove some ...To go to court, you have to be able to prove some damage in monetary terms. A successful lawsuit would be highly unlikely. James Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post-22662075320591241132015-11-21T07:20:34.621-08:002015-11-21T07:20:34.621-08:00As a missionary in the Family History Library, ano...As a missionary in the Family History Library, another missionary showed me that her uncle was putting in new ancestors way back and faking the data so he could do temple work. She showed me he used names from the present to make up these fake people from the past. We contacted him and told him he need to quit this behavior or his use of then new.FamilySearch could be suspended. He stopped. <br />It seems to me we wring our hands over these behaviors at times, but don't do much to stop them. If Support won't take care of this, since they are always swamped, then perhaps threatening some kind of legal action might help. James - you would know if that is even possible.Cathy Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10461484882494138496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post-70775385656436213972015-11-21T05:41:03.385-08:002015-11-21T05:41:03.385-08:00We all have exactly the same responses and exactly...We all have exactly the same responses and exactly the same experiences. I was pointing out the problem for which there is no readily available solution. James Tannerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02989059644120454647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post-58967271586181746612015-11-21T05:34:22.390-08:002015-11-21T05:34:22.390-08:00As I recall, one of the "new innovations"... As I recall, one of the "new innovations" with FSFTree was encouraging "collaboration" among ancestors, so we could "put together the most perfect representation of the common descendant" that we have. <br /> As an FHC Director, what I have noticed is that if a patron doesn't recognize the person (or people) submitting additional info for the common descendant, then the patron is less likely to want to collaborate with the other submitter(s). [Could that possibly be due to the insecurity of the internet, itself?] Of course, the best thing is to try and get the patron to collaborate with the other submitters re: the work on the common descendant(s). <br /> If that doesn't seem to work, however, then I have given my patrons other suggestions: some create their FT off-line, so no one can intervene with their work via the computer or internet; the other option is to have the patrons (who have accts. w/Ancestry) to set up their FT on Ancestry as a PRIVATE TREE, so people cannot make random, uncollaborated changes. <br /> The most frustrating thing I see is when patrons come in with FSFTree changes and there are NO SOURCES for any of the changes. This is especially frustrating for those patrons who have worked hard to research and find sources documenting their descendants. All of a sudden, someone the patron doesn't know has merged the patron's info into info submitted by the unknown ancestor. Sources are gone and I have a very UNHAPPY and confused patron on my hands. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post-51978815756457322172015-11-20T08:48:48.608-08:002015-11-20T08:48:48.608-08:00How infuriating. I don't think that locking en...How infuriating. I don't think that locking entries is the answer since then we can't add sources and discussions explaining the problem, but the answer should involve a robust problem resolution system from FamilySearch, perhaps an accessible and moderated locking system like Wikipedia.Amy Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04037263182287268748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post-74713743889660338952015-11-20T08:34:21.783-08:002015-11-20T08:34:21.783-08:00A fine way to get to Heaven! Reminds me of the ma...A fine way to get to Heaven! Reminds me of the man who told a general authority that he never missed a priesthood meeting even if he had to lie to his boss and tell him he was sick!Grandpa Landmeierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18397287163921539683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3793782800729950147.post-59776283536574644402015-11-20T08:11:03.653-08:002015-11-20T08:11:03.653-08:00I couldn't agree more. FT seems woefully lacki...I couldn't agree more. FT seems woefully lacking in any kind of basic validation checks and controls. Someone recently added a spouse to one of my wife's ancestors who was born 200 years after her supposed husband, and then they reserved the temple sealing!Ted Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09810743230086342147noreply@blogger.com